IT-LIST Digest 49Topics covered in this issue include:  1) Re: DT3155 problem! -Reply	by "R. Naimi"   2) Classification of objects	by Ulrich Seydel   3) v1.25 does nothing :(	by (MD Squiers)  4) Re: v1.25 does nothing :(	by Peter Stalmans   5) SAVING STACKS IN VER 1.25	by "Brian O'Rourke"   6) Outline image in new window?	by "Alan Hale"   7) Fourier transforms and IT	by Christian Broesamle   8) Re: binary file question	by Laura Louise Cowen   9) Problems, Problems and more problems.	by "R. Naimi"  10) Re: Do you receive my email?	by Bryan Crosby  11) Re: listowner's note: READ ME if you want a copy of your own message	by Bryan Crosby  12) Maximum image size capibility	by "Paul A. Roales"  13) macros	by Laura Louise Cowen  14) LEAVE	by Ron Hoebe  15) Re: LEAVE	by John Irving  16) No personal vendetta please	by Mak Hoe Kit  17) Re: LEAVE	by Tom Mote ----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:54:00 +001 (GMT0)From: "R. Naimi" To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: DT3155 problem! -ReplyMessage-ID: <>Hi Tony,I just checked, and I too have the beta 1 version of DT-OpenLayers.could this be the notorious problem? My computer is connected to a network and I was beginning to suspect thatthe network connection might cause this problem. To test this, I removed theconnection so the network is no longer connected, but the problem persisted.Can someone out there whos program funcitons perfectly without error,please check and inform us what version of SDK's and SDK95 you arerunning. It just could be that we are stuck with the wrong version and arebeating our head against a cast iron gate?well, I am tuned to your emails,sincerely yours,Naimi------------------------------Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 05:15:58 +0800From: Ulrich Seydel To: IT-LIST@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Classification of objectsMessage-ID: <>I installed IT very recently and I am very impressed with its features. However, I came across a problem when I tried to classify objects. Everytime I tried to classify objects according to their mean gray-value the program crashed. Unfortunately the help menu did not provide a clue what was going wrong. Could it be the way I entered the value: I chose 100, 150, and 200 in one instance? Or could it be the configuration of my computer?Any help is appreciated.Ulrich SeydelCentre for Microsocpy and MicroanalysisUniversity of Western AustraliaNedlands, WA 6907+61 9 380 1770+61 9 380 1087------------------------------Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:35:42 -0400From: (MD Squiers)To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: v1.25 does nothing :(Message-ID: I have installed IT125 on two separate machine, one running NT4.0b2 and onewith NT4.0 Final (build 1381)...However, on both systems, IT appears to load, but nothing is everdisplayed.  The task manager shows that the process is running, but thereare no visible windows.  If I run DEBUG on the process, the IT "appears"and I am able to use the program.  Any clues?Thank you,MD Squiers,Research Engineer,Cybernet Systems Corp.------------------------------Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:32:22 +0200From: Peter Stalmans To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: v1.25 does nothing :(Message-ID: <>At 07:28 AM 9/26/96 +0600, you wrote:>I have installed IT125 on two separate machine, one running NT4.0b2 and one>with NT4.0 Final (build 1381)...>>However, on both systems, IT appears to load, but nothing is ever>displayed.  The task manager shows that the process is running, but there>are no visible windows.  If I run DEBUG on the process, the IT "appears">and I am able to use the program.  Any clues?I installed IT 1.25 in Win NT4.0 beta 2 and now in the final version (bothServer and Workstation). It was obvious from the beginning that it takes alot of time to boot IT in NT 4.0: actually 55 seconds on a Pentium 100 with24 Mb RAM. After booting, the program works fine. I do not know why it takesso much time.Try waiting a bit longer.Peter Stalmans, of Physiology KULeuvenHerestraat 49B-3000 LeuvenBelgiumtel: +32-16-34 71 46fax: +32-16-34 59 91------------------------------Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:31:20 -0400From: "Brian O'Rourke" To: "'Image Tool List'" Subject: SAVING STACKS IN VER 1.25Message-ID: <01BBAB9E.3DF3F040@BOR(new)>Does any body know why I can't save stacks in Version 1.25, but I can in =Version 1.23?  In 1.25 I reopen a saved stack and there's only one =image, regardless of the number in the original stack.Thanks,Brian O'Rourke------------------------------Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:18:15 +0000From: "Alan Hale" To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Outline image in new window?Message-ID: <>I am using IT 1.23. According to the Help files, in Settings|Preferences|Find Objects there ought to be an option:"Show outline image in new window"However, this does not appear in the dialog box itself. Am I missing something?Alan D Hale>From Aberystwyth, on the West Coast of Wales------------------------------Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:33:02 +0200From: Christian Broesamle To: "" Subject: Fourier transforms and ITMessage-ID: <>Hello Toolers,Are there plans to add Fourier transforms to IT? If so, when? Does anybody know of a PC based free- or shareware program that can do Fouriers?Regards, Christian-- ************************************************************Christian Broesamle            email: broesam@hifo.unizh.chBrain Research Institute         tel: +41 1 385 6333University of Zurich             fax: +41 1 422 2262CH-8029 Zurich                  http://www.hifo.unizh.chSwitzerland************************************************************------------------------------Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:13:08 -0700 (PDT)From: Laura Louise Cowen To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: binary file questionMessage-ID: <199609270613.XAA04206@fraser>Thanks for the help so far.  Everything seems to work (most of the time)when I have tried your seggestion on using the threshold.  I know antrying to automate it by creating a macro.  I was wondering if in themacro I could set my range (for the threshold scale) rather thancontinually doing manually.  So far I have gotten it to write a macro forevery step except the selection of the range.  Any ideas?  Laura. -- Laura Cowen      Indeed, it is an extreme irony of evolution that the only      creatures capable of uncovering their own evolutionary       history, choose so often to cover it up. -Robert Russell               ------------------------------Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:13:00 +001 (GMT0)From: "R. Naimi" To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Problems, Problems and more problems.Message-ID: <>Hi everyone,I would like to suggest to the people who are using IT successfully with theirboards (i.e. DT3155) to check and report their system configuration, DTOLversion (provided by Data Translation) as well as the DTOL95 version.Personally I have got a headache from trying to find out what causes thesecrashes that evidently happens. As some are using IT to the full while othersare struggling to get it going it would be very nice to find out what makes yoursystem tick.It also be nice to have a FAQ file set up from possible contributions to thisquestion for future users as well.desperately yours,Naimi------------------------------Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:31:28 +0100From: Bryan Crosby To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: Do you receive my email?Message-ID: <>yes i did bjc------------------------------Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:35:08 +0100From: Bryan Crosby To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: listowner's note: READ ME if you want a copy of your own messageMessage-ID: <>Dear Tom,I would like to set up a similar distribution list so that studentscould ask queries about my lectures, could you tell me how I could do ithere at Edinburgh please? is it free ? can I get software etc.respectfully yoursBryan Crosby ....> Several subscribers have expressed concern that they do not receive> a copy of their own posting to the list.  This reflects the fact that> our server can either send you a copy (ACKnowledgement) or not > (NOACKnowledgement) of your own posting.  To be sure that you DO> receive a copy of your own posting, please send the command>    set it-list mail ack> in the body of email addressed to>> > Note that this command must be sent to,> which is NOT the distribution address for this list.  So, sending your> command in a reply to this note won't do.> > If you want to know what other neat commands are available to you as> a subscriber to this list, send the command>    help> in the body of email addressed to>> > Tom Deahl> > ------------------------------Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:50:35 -0500 (CDT)From: "Paul A. Roales" To: IT-LIST@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Maximum image size capibilityMessage-ID: <>Hi,I am looking into using IT for Landsat satellite photo analysis and one ofthe concerns I have is the maximum size of the image IT can handle. I knowthat the NIH image processing software can only handle an image with amaximum width of 4096 pixels but can handle an infinate length image. Sincethe Landsat images are approximately 23056 pixels wide and 21585 pixels longI need to know if they are too large for IT to handle. Anyone have anyexperience with large images?Thanks, Paul RoalesConsulting Geologist------------------------------Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:39:12 -3100 (PDT)From: Laura Louise Cowen To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: macrosMessage-ID: <199610010239.TAA14139@fraser>Hi,     i am trying to write a macro that will save a selection of my image,open that selection, process it using the threshold option, and thenanalyse it with black and white pixel count.  I can do all this manuallyand it works.  However, when I try to record a macro IT tells me my imagesare not binary when I try to analyse them.  Anyone know what is up? -- Laura Cowen      Indeed, it is an extreme irony of evolution that the only      creatures capable of uncovering their own evolutionary       history, choose so often to cover it up. -Robert Russell               ------------------------------Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 09:20:01 +0100From: Ron Hoebe To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: LEAVEMessage-ID: <>LEAVE------------------------------Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:43:45 -0700 (PDT)From: John Irving To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: LEAVEMessage-ID: <>At 02:17 AM 10/1/96 +0600, you wrote:>LEAVE  SO, WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU, EH, MISTER?  YOU DON'T LIKE US OR SOMETHING, IS THAT IT?------------------------------Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 00:33:20 +0700From: Mak Hoe Kit To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: No personal vendetta pleaseMessage-ID: <>To whom it may concernI am a subscriber to IT-LIST, and I have been following the mails withgreater interest. Though I am new and have nothing to contribute, I mustsay that I have learnt quite a bit. I would also like to say thatIT-LIST is not the place for venting anger or anything. I just feel verydisturbed to receive such a message!--    --------------------------------------- /             Mak Hoe Kit		   \       	 	/     National University of Singapore      \	 	\   Department of Electrical Engineering    /	 \       email:	   /    ---------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 11:33:35 -0700From: Tom Mote To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: LEAVEMessage-ID: <>John Irving wrote:> > At 02:17 AM 10/1/96 +0600, you wrote:> >LEAVE> >   SO, WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU, EH, MISTER?>   YOU DON'T LIKE US OR SOMETHING, IS THAT IT?John,I have no idea at all about what you are talking about.  I don't knowwhere the "LEAVE" message came from.  All I have done is to subscribeto it-list and attempt to subscribe to it-announce.  Your note is thefirst thing that I have gooten except notification of a successfulsubscription to it-list and a notification that it-announce does notexist.  I have [in the past three or four days] gotten ITool 1.25installed and running on my computer but don't know how to install theother components that I have downloaded.  I assume that I just copy thevarious files into appropriate sub-folders.  Is that correct?Thank's,Tom------------------------------End of IT-LIST Digest 49