IT-LIST Digest 28Topics covered in this issue include:  1) Re: Help getting started	by Robert O Gappinger   2) DT3155 aquire	by davenport issac   3) Anyone tried to unzip the IT source code/sdk?	by davenport issac   4) unzip source	by SCHERMESSER Patrick 112425   5) Java version	by SCHERMESSER Patrick 112425   6) Re: unzip source	by davenport issac   7) Beginner question - densitometry	by "Michael A. Ferenczi"   8) Re: Increasing size/resolution	by "Institute for Diabetes Research, Munich"   9) Re: Increasing size/resolution	by "Institute for Diabetes Research, Munich"  10) compile error	by SCHERMESSER Patrick 112425  11) Data Translation and Win95	by "S. Brent Dove"  12) X, Y Coordinates	by "S. Brent Dove" ----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:22:51 -0700 (MST)From: Robert O Gappinger To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: Help getting startedMessage-ID: On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Linnea Ista wrote:> Hi!> I have just installed Image tool on my computer. I have a Data > Translations DT3155 frame grabber board installed. I have a gaterway 2000 > model p5-120 running windows 95.  I can process images from disk just > fine (grabbed on another machine and saved as a tif file). When I try and > grnd grab an image through a video camera mounted on my microscope and > connected to the frame grabber card , I get the following message > > Error calling DTOL routine:> OllOpenDevice: OLC_STS_NOOPENDEVICE Unable to open te specified DT open > layers device driver. Make sure that the device is not currently open.> > Upon saying "ok" to this message, the program freezes and requires a > "Ctrl-alt-del" type reboot.> > Anyone have any suggestions?> Thanks!> Linnea > I had the same problem on the same machine, with the same hardware.  I hate to say it, but you are out of luck in Win95 for the DT3155 with the DT Open Layers driver.  The DTOL driver is not compatible with Win95 and can only be run from Win 3.1.  The IT people have stated that a Win95 version for the DT3155 is on its way, but for now, I have just installed Win 3.1 as a secondary operating system.  If you install Win 3.1 as an MS-DOS program to be run from Win95, you can grab frames using something like Global Lab Acquire (from Data Translations), save them, exit Win 3.1 which returns you to the Win95 desktop.  You can then open the images in IT for further analysis.  I realize this is cumbersome, but it's the only solution I've found so far.  I am hoping the creators of IT will have the Win95/DT3155 capable version available soon.  Until then, I'm doing the best I can with what I've got.  Good luck.RobRobert GappingerOptical Sciences CenterUniversity of Arizona------------------------------Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:51:55 -0600 (MDT)From: davenport issac To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: DT3155 aquireMessage-ID: <199607030251.UAA23689@stripe.Colorado.EDU>Data Translation has on thier web pages sample aquire programs that willgive you single frame or pass through live video.  The samples thatshipped with my DT SDK package did not have save capability but supposedlythe new example progs do.http://wheat.symgrp.com/symgrp/datx/imaging.htmlgood luck.------------------------------Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:53:05 -0600 (MDT)From: davenport issac To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Anyone tried to unzip the IT source code/sdk?Message-ID: <199607030253.UAA23712@stripe.Colorado.EDU>I keep getting errors in the same place every time I FTP the code from theIT ftp server.thanks,isaac.------------------------------Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 08:54:00 GMTFrom: SCHERMESSER Patrick 112425 To: "'Liste Image Tool'" Subject: unzip sourceMessage-ID: <31DA27AA@grenelle.saclay.cea.fr>HelloI am a newbie with ITseems great !!some question ...1) I try to unzip the source with a lot of unziper and alldetect CRC errorwith pkunzip i can find most of the file but there is a lot of error with BCC2) is there an example of plug in and how  i can integrate oneWe develop an acquisition card and i want to acquire data. I suppose ido integrate my plugin but i don't understand the good wayany inputs are welcome       _..-'(                       )`-.._             Patrick Schermesser (schermesser@cea.fr)    ./'. '||\\.       (\_/)       .//||` .`\.     CEA/CENG DLETI/DSYS/SCSI ./'.|'.'||||\\|..    )o o(    ..|//||||`.`|.`\.       17 Avenue des Martyrs./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`"'` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..\.   38054 Grenoble Cedex 9 FRANCE------------------------------Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 09:37:00 GMTFrom: SCHERMESSER Patrick 112425 To: "'Messagerie Liste Image Tool'" Subject: Java versionMessage-ID: <31DA316D@grenelle.saclay.cea.fr>Hidoes a java version will exist ???P. Schermesser------------------------------Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:50:05 -0600 (MDT)From: davenport issac To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: unzip sourceMessage-ID: <199607030750.BAA02366@stripe.Colorado.EDU>Looks like I am not the only one!  SOme help on this would be great, Iwould love to start developing my own custom plug in.isaac.> > > Hello> I am a newbie with IT> > seems great !!> > some question ...> > 1) I try to unzip the source with a lot of unziper and all> detect CRC error> with pkunzip i can find most of the file but there is a lot of error with > BCC> > 2) is there an example of plug in and how  i can integrate one> > We develop an acquisition card and i want to acquire data. I suppose i> do integrate my plugin but i don't understand the good way> > any inputs are welcome> >        _..-'(                       )`-.._             Patrick Schermesser > (schermesser@cea.fr)>     ./'. '||\\.       (\_/)       .//||` .`\.     CEA/CENG DLETI/DSYS/SCSI>  ./'.|'.'||||\\|..    )o o(    ..|//||||`.`|.`\.       17 Avenue des Martyrs> ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`"'` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..\.   38054 Grenoble Cedex > 9 FRANCE> ------------------------------Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 09:19:23 +0100From: "Michael A. Ferenczi" To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Beginner question - densitometryMessage-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960703081923.00671874@nimsb41.nimr.mrc.ac.uk>Hello,I just started using image tool. The "line profile" provides a usefuldensitometry of a gel, but I would prefer using a 'thicker line' ora rectangle, and average the pixels to obtain a more representativedensitometry.  How can I do that ?Thank you for your help.Mike Ferenczihttp://npbsn41.nimr.mrc.ac.uk------------------------------Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:34:10 +0200From: "Institute for Diabetes Research, Munich" To: Subject: Re: Increasing size/resolutionMessage-ID: <9607030834.AC28534@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>>To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.edu>From: "Institute for Diabetes Research, Munich" >Subject: Re: Increasing size/resolution>>At 09:06 02.07.1996 +0600, you wrote:>>>>I am processing .TIF files using thresholding to yield an outline of an>>image.  The problem is that the outline ends up containing about 90 pixels,>>which is not enough resolution for a Fourier analysis to accurate capture>>the shape.  A larger image, however, would yield more points and thus result>>in a smoother, more accurate curve.  Is it possible to increase the size of>>an image in ImageTool--not simply ZOOM on the image (which rescales everything>>including the pixels) but actually ENLARGE it leaving the zoom scale the same?>>This would have the same effect as taking the same picture but with increased>>magnification and converting it into a .TIF file.   Thanks for any help!>>>>>>Michael Abraham>>Biology Department>>Penn State University>>(814) 865-2715>>mta108@psuvm.psu.edu>>>>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*Institute for Diabetes Research       *Koelner Platz 1                       *80804 Munich                          *  Germany                               *Phone +49 (89) 30 79 31 0             *Fax   +49 (89) 30 81 73 3             *  email diabetes@lrz.uni-muenchen.de    **-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*------------------------------Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:34:07 +0200From: "Institute for Diabetes Research, Munich" To: it-list@sparky.uthscsa.eduSubject: Re: Increasing size/resolutionMessage-ID: <9607030834.AB28534@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>At 09:06 02.07.1996 +0600, you wrote:>>I am processing .TIF files using thresholding to yield an outline of an>image.  The problem is that the outline ends up containing about 90 pixels,>which is not enough resolution for a Fourier analysis to accurate capture>the shape.  A larger image, however, would yield more points and thus result>in a smoother, more accurate curve.  Is it possible to increase the size of>an image in ImageTool--not simply ZOOM on the image (which rescales everything>including the pixels) but actually ENLARGE it leaving the zoom scale the same?>This would have the same effect as taking the same picture but with increased>magnification and converting it into a .TIF file.   Thanks for any help!>>>Michael Abraham>Biology Department>Penn State University>(814) 865-2715>mta108@psuvm.psu.edu>>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*Institute for Diabetes Research       *Koelner Platz 1                       *80804 Munich                          *  Germany                               *Phone +49 (89) 30 79 31 0             *Fax   +49 (89) 30 81 73 3             *  email diabetes@lrz.uni-muenchen.de    **-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*------------------------------Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 11:30:00 GMTFrom: SCHERMESSER Patrick 112425 To: "'Messagerie Liste Image Tool'" Subject: compile errorMessage-ID: <31DA3DC8@grenelle.saclay.cea.fr>i try to compile and i have an errorCompiling SRC\ITAPP.CPP:Compiling SRC\ANGLE.CPP:Compiling SRC\AOI.CPP:Compiling SRC\BINARYIO.CPP:Compiling SRC\BINDLG.CPP:Compiling SRC\COUNT.CPP:Compiling SRC\DENSCAL.CPP:Compiling SRC\FFMAN.CPP:Compiling SRC\GETCQ.CPP:Compiling SRC\GRAYWND.CPP:Compiling SRC\IMAGESEL.CPP:Compiling SRC\IMAGEWND.CPP:Compiling SRC\ITABOUT.CPP:Compiling SRC\ITICBASE.CPP:Compiling SRC\ITMACRO.CPP:Compiling SRC\ITMDIC.CPP:Compiling SRC\ITPLUG.CPP:Compiling SRC\ITPRINT.CPP:Compiling SRC\ITSTACK.CPP:Compiling SRC\LINE.CPP:Compiling SRC\MACROMAN.CPP:Compiling SRC\MANOBJ.CPP:Compiling SRC\MASKMAN.CPP:Compiling SRC\MDIFRAME.CPP:Compiling SRC\OBJECTS.CPP:Compiling SRC\PIMAN.CPP:Compiling SRC\PS_ACQ.CPP:Compiling SRC\PTHIST.CPP:Compiling SRC\RESPRINT.CPP:Compiling SRC\RESWND.CPP:Compiling SRC\SELTHR.CPP:Compiling SRC\SETDLG.CPP:Error SRC\SETDLG.CPP 17: Unable to open include file 'PRSHT.H'Error SRC\SETDLG.CPP 210: Call to undefined function 'PropSheet_Changed' in function...where is the file PRSHT.H ?????------------------------------Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 07:01:43 -0500 (CDT)From: "S. Brent Dove" To: IT List Subject: Data Translation and Win95Message-ID: <01I6MLGV7CNI009A4G@uthscsa.edu>Recently on ITLIST,Linnea asked about support for the DT3155 under Windows 95.  Peter is correct. At present ImageTool only supports this board under Windows NT, that is because Data Translations just released the drivers for Windows 95.  Unfortunately they also changed some of the naming conventions between the two drivers.  This requires some changes to the original DTOL.DLL and a recompile.  We have also had some problems in getting Don's computer with the PCI bus up and running under Windows 95 as all development is done under Windows NT.  We hope to have these bugs worked out and have the DT3155 supported under Windows 95 shortly.  We will make a posting to this ITLIST as soon as the new dll is completed.  We are paddling this canoe as fast as we can but there are only two of us. So long for now.S. Brent Dove                            Voice: (210) 567-3333Diagnostic Sciences                      Fax:   (210) 567-3334University of Texas                      Email: dove@uthscsa.eduHealth Science Center                    Web:   ddsdx.uthscsa.eduSan Antonio, TX    USA                   ftp:   maxrad6.uthscsa.edu------------------------------Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 07:01:44 -0500 (CDT)From: "S. Brent Dove" To: IT List Subject: X, Y CoordinatesMessage-ID: <01I6MLGVZHDE009A4G@uthscsa.edu>Hello ImageTool Users,Recently on the ITLIST server several requests (Michael Abraham and Dr. Norman Capra) have been made to provide X, Y coordinates for outlines of objects or tracing objects.  Well, we listened.Don has just completed a plugin for ImageTool called Object Outlines.  The plugin outputs to a text file the coordinates of each point that is part of an objects outline.  The x and y coordinates can be separated by several different delimeters and each objects outline points are on a different line.  In this way the points can be easily imported to any graphing program or user developed program which can analyze these data.You will need to dowload the plugin dll from the plugin folder on the ftp server maxrad6.uthscsa.edu  The name of the file is OBJPOINT.DLL it is only 11K so download time should be minimal.  After downloading the file place the dll in the plugins folder on your machine.The process for using the new plugin goes something like this.  First, select the "Preferences" from the "Settings" Menu.  Next select the "Find Objects" tab and make sure that the "show object numbers on original image" and "show object outlines on original image" are both selected. While this step is not absolutely necessary it helps to see the number and the outlines of the objects on the image. Next select the "Object Outlines" tab and select the between points and between x and y delimeters.  Next, open an image and perform a "Find Objects" from the "Analysis" menu.  Usually a manual threshold works best for identifying the objects to be analyzed. Once the thresholds have been established using the slider controls, select OK.  The objects will be identified and their outlines displayed.  Next select the "Object Outlines" from the "Analysis" menu.  You will be prompted for the name of the text file that will be saved. This completes the processYou can use notepad to examine the contents of the text file.  The first line corresponds to the x, y coordinates of the first object and so on. The first coordinate pair will be the bottom most left point of each objects outline.  Ta-Da!!S. Brent Dove                            Voice: (210) 567-3333Diagnostic Sciences                      Fax:   (210) 567-3334University of Texas                      Email: dove@uthscsa.eduHealth Science Center                    Web:   ddsdx.uthscsa.eduSan Antonio, TX    USA                   ftp:   maxrad6.uthscsa.edu------------------------------End of IT-LIST Digest 28